Who knew about this and didn’t tell me?!
- Posted by Beth on April 2nd, 2008 filed in 2008 election, Funny, Moonbats, Politics, Video, WTF Mike Gravel
Okay, WTF, seriously? How the hell did I miss the Mike Gravel ads? This stuff is gold. I just cannot imagine how this guy didn’t get the Democratic nomination, but I guess the Libertarian Party will suit him well enough now…I guess.
The first two are official (?) campaign videos, the second two are “dj mike gravel & rx conspiracies,” as “rx” calls them. I have no idea if that means “official,” but as Gravel is in them and Helter Skelter is featured on his YouTube page, I assume it does. Who knows?
Spooked yet?
I’m guessing chemicals were involved in producing the videos. Or something. Maybe just a big bucket of crazy. I can’t imagine sitting through the length of each video, but apparently, based on the comments at the videos, some have. This is like the biggest prank ever.
Dada Gravel for President! HAHAHA!
TC says:
Ummm…
Lord Bitememan says:
Before anyone gets worried, Gravel is over before he begins as a Libertarian. A few snippits on:
Global Warming:
Big no-no in the Libertarians eyes, abusing taxes in the name of big government social engineering.
Healthcare:
A real Libertarian would support market solutions and deregulation as solutions to the healthcare problems of the nation.
Diversity Issues:
Libertarians feel that all crimes should be treated equally, regardless of the race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation of the victims and transgressors.
Internet Business Issues:
Libertarians would maintain that internet service is a privately provided service and that market forces should serve to regulate how ISPs function. Government intervention would be ananthema.
Noticeably absent is Gravel’s view on gun rights. That’s a torpedo that could sink him as readily as the wrong abortion stance could sink a would-be Republican nominee. I highly suspect Gravel is in favor of some sort of gun control. If that gets out, kiss his Libertarian run goodbye.
TC says:
Mike Gravel has the gravitas of an advanced Alzheimer’s patient and the credibility of that guy holding up a sign about the end times that you see on your way to work. All that with a pure statist pedigree.
He’s a less abrasive Lyndon LaRouche.
Beth says:
LB, I should have included a link to the Reason bit about his becoming a (faux) Libertarian. Libertarians themselves, unsurprisingly, couldn’t agree on whether or not he qualifies–but most were appalled that he’d call himself Libertarian. Even funnier, he said he’s “more Libertarian” than Ron Paul. I suppose he is, if by “Libertarian” you mean “batshit crazy.” LOL
Of course, I say this as one who thinks most Libertarians (as in higher-profile LP members) are batshit crazy anyway, so that’s why I said he should be okay there, appalling socialist politics aside. ;-) Ditto for Bob Barr (also batshit crazy).
Greta says:
OMG - can we put him in a debate with Hillary & Obama for yucks?
PaulW says:
Um, he’s still campaigning, right? I think they’d have to invite him, at least to one of the debates, just for show.
Lord Bitememan says:
Actually, Beth, most Libertarians I knew back at U of M were pretty level-headed folks. None of them were the anarcho-capitalist types that usually bark the loudest. I actually did some cool work with them. The U of M bunch was big into the gun rights issue. So, when the feminazis had the “take back the night” rally to protest violence against women, the head of the college Libertarians organized people to pass out applications for concealed weapons permits to rally participants. ;) I also helped her out in recording a commercial for the cable access channel promoting handguns for safety. Most of her opinions were pretty sound on issues, though there was some considerable nuance over which I disagreed with her on the abortion issue. I found her fairly representative of most of the other Libertarians I’ve met, with the exception that she was smokin’ hot. Still kicking myself that I didn’t go after that in college. :P
Beth says:
That’s why I said high-profile Libertarians. College kids–what can I say, they’re idealists. (Get off my damn lawn, kids!) ;-)
I don’t disagree with everything they’re for by any means; I just think Libertarians are idealistic to a fault. I guess I’m kinda
cynicalmore of a realist. Sure, I’d LOVE to abolish the IRS, but is that really feasible in our economy, and in our culture, for that matter? Unfortunately not. And dedicated Libertarians, at least in my experience, are usually quite intelligent and argue their positions well, whether I agree with them or not (like on abortion or foreign policy).I suppose it’s not really fair for me to say they’re batshit crazy, though, because it’s impossible to define what Libertarians believe–they rarely agree among themselves in large groups. I like the QandO blog, for example, and I agree with them on a whole LOT of stuff–but they aren’t really ideologues, either. And AFAIK, they don’t even vote LP in major elections. IOW, they’re realists (or as I refer to realists, “adults”). The Reason mag people? Ick. Do not want. I was even a Reason mag subscriber some years ago (I think when Slick Willie was the occupant at the WH), but canceled it eventually because I just couldn’t stomach some of their frequent extremism (legalizing ALL drugs? insanity!) or world view. And since 9/11, they’ve been a freaking joke in my eyes, with their irrational paranoia about the Patriot Act (et cetera) and the war.
Then you have the wacked out paleolibertarian bunch, like Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul. God, where to begin? Blech.
TC says:
I dabbled with Libertarianism several years ago. I blame Neal Boortz for that.
Sure, there are some aspects of Libertarianism that make sense. But man… The people.
I soon came to realize that abortion is just plain wrong and evil, that not everything can be privatized and still function worth a flip, and that most serious Libertarians really are bat shit crazy.
MC says:
Gack!