Let’s play the Paultard game!
- Posted by Beth on August 12th, 2007 filed in 2008 election, Candidates, Funny, General, Moonbats, Paultards, Politics
See if you can guess the would-be Ron Paul supporter who said this:
Factors that force people to become a part of the “system” are increasing at an alarming rate. Computer technology enables everyone from Madison Avenue executives to Government agencies to keep a record of your every move, and “flags” are thrown up any time you don’t fit their pre-conceived mold of what a good citizen should be. Our right to travel and remain nomadic is rapidly being restricted. We often travel light on spur-of-the-moment instructions, however we can no longer take an airline flight on short notice without harassment. Anyone who purchases a ticket with cash without advance reservations and does not have a load of baggage to check will likely be subjected to baggage searches, interrogation, and suspicion. Even when they can find nothing whatsoever that is questionable, authorities have at times reluctantly let our members proceed, convinced that they are indeed guilty of some crime but too clever to be caught. Police presence at border crossings have increased to the point that you feel you are in a war zone.
The dominant governments of the world, especially that of the United States, have become totally corrupt. If a citizen even tries to keep informed about this corruption, let alone speak out or take a stand against it, he opens himself up, at the very least, to scrutiny and invasion of privacy, such as phone taps and surveillance. Anything is permitted when the very ones who are the most responsible for perpetuating the corruption declare someone to be a threat to the “National Security.”
NO GOOGLING, that’s not fair. Go ahead, guess. I’ll tell you in the comments after a few people at least try to answer. :mrgreen:
Robert says:
I don’t know who said the above. But, which part of it do you claim to be false?
Do a Google search on the Real ID card. It will contain RFID chips at some point.
American passports already do contain RFID.
How can you not see the slippery slope of loss of personal freedom and privacy that is already affecting us?
“Those that would trade freedom for safety…deserve neither.” Who said that? Ben Franklin
T.Paine says:
Actually Paulbot Robert, the correct quote in full is
This link will take you to my source. I think the use of the words essential/temporary drastically change the meaning of the quote. I think that trading a small portion of my liberty, for guaranteed and permanent safety in some aspect, is a worthy trade. But then, I’m not a tin-foil hat wearing fool.
T.Paine says:
Got sidetracked. I think this line from the quote is most telling:
Now all I have to do is figure out who might be instructed to fly ‘light’ at the drop of a hat.
Ooh, just noticed that! Between the anti-tech insanity, the group of “members,” and the need to travel suddenly when “instructed,” I hereby claim that the speaker is a “member” of the Westboro Baptist Church. The “God hates fags” crazies who travel all around to protest at military funerals. I guess I’ll have to come back to see if I was right!
Lance says:
:beatsme: I don’t have a clue! :clueless:
This is a very well written screed!!
The author managed to cover enough points to make life seem absolutely hopeless!!
There are so many of these skillfull with words but addled in the brain peeps in the media & politics, that it could be one of millions. The unibersitees turn ‘em out by the tens of thousands every year!!
I know nottin’ ’bout Ron Paul, his campaign or his camp followers nor do I want too!! And I don’t think I’m missing anything!!
I only hope that if the author truly believes what he/she wrote, then they’ll bring their hopeless situation to an end!
Cheers, Glad I’m not him Lance :monkey:
PS: Ok, Beth, you’ve got your coupla comments, so who is this hopeless moron???
Lance says:
T. Paine
Thank you for your insightful comments!
You’ve taught me more about how to read & analyze this type of screed for significant clues. I got sidetracked by the extreme paranoia & exaggeration of reality to fit the psychopathology!
Cheers, getting smarter at MVRWC Lance
:clueless: :monkey: :cheese:
Beth says:
DAMN, T! You’re good! It’s not a Phelps idiot, but you’re most definitely on the right track, and you caught all the key points (the anti-tech insanity, the group of “members,” and the need to travel suddenly when “instructed,”).
Hint: think black sneakers.
Ace of Spades HQ says:
Mr. Floppy for President (chad)…
His chances are as good as Ron Paul’s and his simple yet eloquent philosophy stirs my soul. Update: On the Ron Paul theme Beth from My Vast Right Wing Conspiracy has a game of guess the Paulbot going …….
Beth says:
Lance, you won’t believe it when I tell you.
Nevermind, yeah you will. :wink:
chad says:
I am going with T. Paine it is some member of the Phelps clan.
Beth says:
OK, someone just asked me to keep the suspense going until tomorrow, so the Paultards scouring Technorati would have time to find it and make their best guesses.
It’s really good, I promise. I’ve got more where that came from, too. :swyoda:
(Nobody reads blogs on Sunday anyway, and I forgot what day it is!)
Something... and Half of Something says:
Say what?…
In this wacky world, sometimes its difficult to tell the nut jobs from the nut jobs simply by what they say. Sometimes… they sound almost rational. Many of you think Ron Paul is a nut job. Many of you think……
LindaSoG says:
dagnabit, its so damn difficult to tell the nut jobs from the nut jobs.
cranky says:
Some CAIR spokesman or maybe, who’s that idiot who didn’t put the plug in his boat while showboating around New Orleans after Katrina, Sean Penn?
cranky says:
The Church of Scientology?
So many nuts. So little time.
Sheik Yer Bootie says:
Lyndon Larouche.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
TXMarko says:
The only “Black Sneakers” folks I can think of would be those nuts who killed themselves while awaiting the UFO behind the comet to save them.
Without the benefit of search engines, alas, I can add no more detail.
Sierrahome says:
Tomorrow! I gotta wait till tomorrow…
…grabs ball and mit and drags bat through the dust back to home.
Melissa In Texas says:
Our right to travel and remain nomadic is rapidly being restricted.
WTF?
Beth, you are making us wait? That is just not right!
DoubleU says:
TPaine (and others)
Traveling unexpectedly or on short notice…a business trip or a family emergency.
T.Paine says:
Okay, given Beth’s hint of the black sneakers, I might have it. Along with my previous points, and re-reading the quote, I find a very anti-state, anti-globalization lean to their rant. Assuming the person wears all black, not just black sneakers, I’m gonna say it’s a leftarded anarchist. There’s some specific group (can’t remember the name and no googling allowed) that goes around the country to all those lame giant puppet protests. They were the ones (IIRC) that spray-painted the US Capitol a couple years back. Anyway, that’s my thought. I’ll tune in tomorrow to see if I got any closer.
T.Paine says:
Alright, one more thing. Regarding DoubleU’s comment directly above, I don’t think that’s the case.
“often” would preclude a family emergency, and the whole tone of the post would make a business traveler unlikely. It sounds, in my opinion anyway, more like some dirty pinko getting andword from the VLWC to go to Seattle, or DC, or wherever, bring all black, and prepare to speak truth to power.
Elvis says:
Bethany dear,
I read blogs on Sunday, donchaknow. I will be busy tomorrow, so just sneak me a leetle email with the answer, wouldjahun?
Love ya, mean it.
Elvis
Sierrahome says:
Black sneakers???… is it Rev Jackson? Oh that was a dirty crack…Hillary?
Robert says:
When does the stack of “small portions” of liberty add up to an unacceptable loss?
And, even if I agreed with your willingness to sacrifice liberty for safety, I would have to ask where you developed your blind trust that the “fedtards” will be able to provide us with even a modicum of real safety?
At what point will the “fedtards” monitoring of every “1″ and “0″ of every single email and phone call cross the line for you?
Will you wait until there is a camera that covers every square inch of your waking hour?
Every day, you can find a steady stream of links to stories that prove that our current government is using “fear” to significantly expand their monitoring of US citizens.
I would love to hear your “non sarcastic” response.
Is there a line where you start to wonder about our loss of “small liberties?”
Alan says:
I would think maybe St. Cindy, but there are some two syllable words in it, so I guess not.
Doug says:
This quote looks like Alex Jones. He is stupid enough to spew this kind of crap.
cranky says:
Robert wrote: Every day, you can find a steady stream of links to stories…
Are these stories found in the fiction aisle? Do you separate fact from opinion?
Jack Hamilton says:
To the person that thinks we have given up so much. You do not have a clue. We have not given up anything compared to other people of this country in Wars we have fought and those things were temporary just as this is. In the Civil war we had Newspaper editors jailed Habeas Corpus suspended Food and livestock confiscated, In WW! and WW2 Think of all the restrictions on traval then and the rationing and interments all temporary in nature just as this is to save our nation and our way of life. The Islame killer’s are serious. It is time for you to get serious to and help defeat the monsters.
Jack Hamilton says:
The above was direct at the idiot Robert. Who is not being truthful in his assertions.The Fed is not looking at every email or letter or phone call. Do not deal with terrorist and you do not have anything to worry about.
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Beth says:
Don’t bother debating with a lunatic, y’all. It’s pointless with these clowns. People like Robert need deprogramming from one of those cult recovery places.
Just talk about him as though he’s blind and deaf but unfortunately, still able to babble. He can’t understand anything you say, and doesn’t want to anyway.
I wonder if the smilies scare Robertard? Some of ‘em are space aliens, and you know how the crazies get about space and aliens and shi’ite. Spoooooky.
:scared:
Robert says:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/08/12/us_doles_out_millions_for_street_ca...
If your “intellectual discourse” can rise no further than name calling, you may want to, at least, ask yourself, “Who’s the real ‘mindless follower?’”
I don’t know enough about Ron Paul to mindlessly trust and follow him..anywhere.
But, why should I trust the neoconservatives either?
We are supposed to accept increasing loss of liberty because we trust that our lovely fed has our best interests in mind?
In all of the situations mentioned, there was a clearly defined enemy and clearly definable goals (win/lose).
Now, we are being asked to sacrifice liberty in a never ending battle against “terrorism.”
Terrorism is a tactic…not an enemy/entity.
I am not willing to trust that “daddy fed” is not utilizing fear to consolidate power against its own citizens.
But, hey, I’m the mindless follower, right?
Robert says:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/29/washington/29nsa.html?ei=5090&en=d689a624e9208b40&ex=13433...
Yep…you’re right. The feds aren’t working on monitoring or data mining.
Robert says:
And, unfortunately…I voted for Bush…twice.
But, I am no longer willing to “blindly follow” anyone.
Because I don’t think the Constitution is just a piece of paper. And, I would like to ensure that we defend freedom at home…before we try to spread it across the world.
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UPDATE for everyone else, since Cult Brother Robert is too brainwashed to care:
This silly shi’ite he and every other BDS-afflicted moron posted comes from a blog. Not a news blog or anything, just some farkin’ guy who claims three people heard it (not that he heard it himself), and supplies no link or names or anything. This story is a HOAX, but all these clowns believe it. LOL.
–Beth
Robert says:
Those damned, mindless ronbots that dedicated their lives to serving us in the federal government…only to be disgusted by the current trends directed against our liberties…
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UPDATE: Funny, Cult Brother Robert didn’t include the link to this one either. Why? Because it comes from that same blog-that-says-it’s-not-a-blog, written by some guy who has no credibility. He calls himself a “newsman,” but he writes opinion articles on his blog. Whatever. (Keep repeating until it comes true, just like every other crank.) And Cult Brother Robert thinks this buttresses his position. Heh.
–Beth
Robert says:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/ramasastry.ids/index.html
Robert says:
http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/
raz0r says:
Black sneakers. Hmmm, I got it. It’s the RunDMC cult isn’t it?
You already nixed the Phelps clan. I’m leaning towards the new Black Panthers or maybe Nation of iSlam.
John says:
Heaven’s gate cultist.
Beth says:
RunDMC cult! HAAAAAA!!!!
Robert says:
Let’s play the “fredtard game!
Should we elect the man that gave us the above (very insightful) observation about our “terrorist” filled nation?
Or the one that said this…
The second quote is from a comedian…not running for President.
The first is from an actor…not (yet) running for President.
I vote for the comedian.
Robert says:
Another great policy statement from David Cross. But, who wants to elect him? He’s just a silly actor.
Beth says:
Boobert, get your own blog. You seem to have a lot of culty trootherisms (from a stand-up comedian! so insightful!) to share, but your cult propaganda isn’t going to be taken seriously by anyone with a brain.
Robert says:
Beth,
I tried an honest, serious approach.
You and your visitors chose to call me an idiot and cultist.
I have less allegiance to Ron Paul than you do to Fred Thompson. I have yet to publicly ask for support/donations for Paul on my site.
So, I’ll try again (in apology for getting childish)…
If you read my very first post in this thread, I was sincerely looking to understand your (your visitors) thoughts relative to these topics.
From my perspective, it seems a little strange and creepy that an entire group of people is willing to blindly follow our federal government down a path of never-ending “war on terror.”
I sincerely just wanted to understand when you/they might actually doubt the policies/intentions of the fed.
I understand your “culty” view of the Ron Paul movement. But (from someone on all the RP lists), I can tell you that the main reason RP will probably NOT be ultimately successful is because there is no “one” idea/ideas that the RP followers agree on; they are all coming to the RP “bandwagon” from widely divergent starting points…far left…far right…Christians…Athiests…Pro life…Pro Choice. The ONLY thing that seems to unite them is a desire to protect our basic freedoms…from real foreign enemies…and from our own fed.
I (until the past year or so) would have been considered the most “right wing” of “right wingers.”
I was a teenager during the Reagan years and loved him.
I was seriously upset when Clinton was elected and re-elected.
I voted for Bush…twice!
(And I hate to admit this, most of all) No one was a bigger Fox News/Hannity/O’Reilly/Limbaugh fan.
But it was the last seven years of Bush’s presidency that changed my mind. If Clinton had been President during this time, I could have blamed the encroachment on my liberties on the evil Democrats. But, unfortunately, it was a Republican administration that betrayed me.
I have always considered myself a conservative first (versus a Republican).
And, based upon the title of your blog, I would have to assume you are coming from a similar back round.
Have you not been disappointed by the last seven years?
Can you really say that Bush and his (neoconservative) administration have served your “right wing” purposes well?
He has expanded government spending beyond Clinton’s dreams.
He has expanded social programs beyond FDR’s dreams.
He has expanded the (unofficial, unConstitutional) powers of the Executive branch far beyond the founder’s nightmares.
I, like you, spend much time online. My life is infinitely better because of the new digital/Internet technologies. But, my enthusiasm for the future of these technologies is significantly quelled by the encroachment of the Patriot act and the other “over reaches” that the feds have implemented since 911.
And, despite your accusations, I am not wearing a tin-foil hat. But, I have been willing to do the research on some of the accusations against Bush and his administration. Unfortunately, there is much truth to the accusations.
-Most major ISPs and telephone companies have allowed the NSA to install equipment/devices that monitors major portions of phone and Internet data going through the pipes.
-The feds HAVE been developing substantial “data mining” projects which they utilize to sort through the data they are collecting.
-Just past weekend, the legislatures passed another law giving the feds even more ability to monitor ANY phone traffic that goes outside the country. Not just traffic going to “suspected terrorists.” So, any phone call leaving/entering the country is now fair game for monitoring.
-The “Real ID” card is not a loony conspiracy theory. It is the law now and to be implemented by 2009. A national ID card with the ability to (utilizing RFID) monitor our every public movement?
Does it really make me a wacko to ask, “How does this loss of US citizen’s liberties make us more secure/protect us from terrorists?”
I have to just take whatever the fed proposes…or I am wearing a tin-foil hat?
Yes, I did cheer when we invaded Iraq. And, yes, for a time, I bought the (neocon) ideas of “spreading Democracy.”
But, over the last two years, it has become obvious that this strategy is not working. And, as I started to realize THIS instance wasn’t working, I started to research past “interventions.” Since WWII, we have only lost these ill-advised forays into “policing the world.”
And, yes, I do agree with Ron Paul on the “blowback” issue.
Who trained and financed Osama initially? The CIA.
Who supported Saddam initially? The USA.
Who overthrew the government of Iran in the 70’s? The USA.
15 of the 19 terrorists on 911 were Saudi Arabian…and…are we invading SA?
Why is it radical to believe that our foreign policy may have negative effects on our interactions in the world?
Would we not have large groups of “insurgents” and “terrorists” being created amongst US citizens if China was building military bases here? I hope we would!
Again (crossing my fingers you or your visitors actually care enough to seriously answer me)…one question…
What would it take for you/they to question our loss of liberties and foreign policies?
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